Summer Admissions Webinar (June 2024)

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Welcome to the Jackson School of Public Affairs information session for our graduate program. I'm really thrilled to have you all here This is a one way recording and.

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So I am, I'm a little bit frazzled right now, but I'm just going to go through my slides and read off what they say so or talk about what they say. So hopefully you'll get.

The gist. So I am the Dean of Admissions at the Yale Jackson School of Global Affairs. And I want to tell you a little bit about our program, give you an overview of what we're looking for, what makes us a little bit different than most of the policy programs out there and some of our unique features and generous features like our funding. So stay tuned and then also give you a few application tips and then I'd love to open it up to questions.

And you know, kind of let your questions guide me from there. Just a little bit about me.

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Don't even know where to start. So I my connection to Yale actually goes back to law school. I graduated from Yale Law School in 2000. Before that I did my undergrad at Princeton. I spent a year in Bogota, Colombia.

On a Fulbright, and then I went to law school. After I graduated from law school, I clerked for a year in Puerto Rico, and then I joined the FBI. I was an FBI agent specializing in counterintelligence investigations in New York City from 2002 to 2005, right after 911.

And I kind of got expedited into the Bureau after 911 because of my language skills.

And then I kind of wanted to transition to balancing work and life with a family. So I came back to Yale. I was at, I was an associate Dean at Yale Law School for 12 years where I was the Dean of admissions there. So if any of you are interested, I'll talk about joint degrees generally, but I can also answer more specific questions about law school if, if that is a joint degree program you're interested in. And then in 2017, I moved over to the Jackson School where I am on the faculty. I teach national security law.

And a course on Russian information warfare. And I also oversee our graduate admissions programs. So that is a little bit about me. Umm, this webinar is being recorded and it will be available at a later date. If you, you, you should get a recording, umm, or a link to the recording afterwards. So if you have to cut out early, don't worry about it. We will, you know, we'll make sure that you have the full.

The full session sounds slides, but and if you have any other questions or comments you can post them in the chat.

So.

You probably know a little bit about Yale. Generally, we are located in New Haven, CT, very conveniently right between.

New York and Boston, and a little bit about the history of the Jackson School.

You know, you'll hear a lot of people talk about Jackson being new, and that's true, but it's sort of it, it depends on what aspect you're talking about. So we've had a Yale, the Graduate School at Yale has had a international relations department going back a very long time.

A very.

Well regarded International Relations program. In 2010, an alumnus named John Jackson donated money to the school to create a global affairs policy program so that International Relations department of the Graduate School became the Jackson Institute for Global Affairs. It was still under the umbrella of the Graduate School. We granted an MA in Global Affairs during this time and then from 2010.

To, to, to 22,022. We were basically transitioning to build up to Jackson becoming an Independent School. And I won't bore you with the bureaucracies, but that involved, you know, the, the trustees of Yale voting on Jackson, sort of, you know, leaving the nest of the Graduate School and being its own professional school. So in the fall of 2022.

The Jackson, the Jackson School of Global Affairs did launch as the first independent professional school at Yale since 1976, which was when the Business School, the Yale School of Management was created. So it's true that we're relatively new as an independent professional school. Uh, two years, umm, we are relatively new as a Jackson something or other since 2010, but really our alumni base and.

Our history and evolution goes back far beyond that. And so, you know, this is kind of a continuation of a program that has been at Yale for a long time. So if you were seeing the slide right now, you would see something that will help guide my conversation, which is the five FS, and I will go through each of them. And that's the flexibility and features of our graduate program.

That's one that's actually 1F the faculty, future family and funding. And so let me quickly start with the flexibility, because I think that that's really the most.

You know, unique aspect of our program compared to most of the policy schools out there. So our graduate program has two different programs. We have a two year MPP.

That's a master of public policy and global affairs and we have a master one year master of advanced study, which is an MAS. Uh, that's the abbreviation. And I'll just describe a few distinctions between the two. And if, if you're asking questions, if you could specify whether you're asking about the MAS or MPP, that would be helpful because there are.

There are some pretty big differences in kind of the the way that they are.

Some of our policies for each of those programs. So the two year MPB program is generally for people at the early stages of their professional career. Most of our incoming students have been out of school for I would say anywhere from average, you know, one to three years.

Two to four year or something around there. They've been working a little bit after graduation with a few exceptions that I can talk about when I get to the admissions piece. And So what we're really seeking to do in the MPP program is take people who kind of know where they want to go and help them build the skills and knowledge toolkit that they need to kind of launch into the next phase of their career.

The one year master of Advanced study, UMM, is really for people who are later in their careers. These are generally people who have been working for seven to 10 years. And so, you know, they're more kind of mid career professionals.

Not really people looking to change jobs generally.

And the size of these two cohorts is is different.

Our MPP program is generally anywhere from 30 to 35 incoming students. Our master advanced study is very, very small, generally two to five students, usually on the lower side of that. Both of these programs have a very flexible curriculum, the two year program.

The requirements are 16 courses, so average course load of four courses each semester.

And, uh, what's unique about the MPP program is that there's only four required courses, uh, throughout those two years, umm, and those you take with the cohort that you come in, there is a political science course, a history course to quantitative courses. But beyond that, you are able to tailor your curriculum around your specific interests, uh, drawing from not only courses that are offered at Jackson.

But courses that are offered across the university at any school or program. So for example, if you were interested in you know.

Human, human rights and you know, women, women's development in Africa. You might take a human rights course from the law school. You might take some courses from the women's studies department. You might take a few courses from the African Studies department.

And you would put that together over the course of two years. Now the Master of Advanced Study also has a flexible curriculum. There are no required courses and a similar course load of approximately 4 courses per semester. So 8 courses over the course of one year.

I should add that the MPP program does have a language requirement, so we require proficiency.

In a foreign language in order to graduate, umm, if you are coming in already proficient in a foreign language, you are able to test out of it. Uh, test out of that requirement before, umm, you know, you matriculate, umm, and I believe that the, uh, testing, you have to test at the L4 level in order to test out. But many people come in and they are already proficient in.

Another language, maybe 2 languages, and they take advantage of the excellent language studies department at Yale to pick up another language. But of course, you don't need to have that same proficiency to graduate if you've met that requirement. No language requirement for the one year MAS.

You know, just to give you an example of some different areas that students choose to focus on when they're at Jackson and the MPP program especially.

We have International Security and diplomacy, social and economic development, international economics, global governance, climate, regional studies. You know, we have, we can really put together anything.

And the because of the flexibility and the huge breadth of classes that you can take and, you know, the need to design something around your interest is partly why we look for people who have.

Worked a little bit because that helps them know what they want to focus on at the time that they apply and and end up coming to Jackson.

So a little bit about our faculty, which is also.

A little bit different than maybe other schools. So we first have of course your traditional.

Faculty.

You know that are appointed at Yale at Jackson, the faculty are jointly appointed at Jackson and another.

Department actually wanna people always ask like, well, what changed when Jackson became a school? Well, one of the things that changed is that Jackson actually now can hire its own faculty, but we hire people who are jointly appointed to the Jackson School and another department. So you know, you'll see that our faculty are Jackson and Department of Economics or Jackson and Department of Political Science Jackson and Department of History. So that gives us a lot of that cross disciplinary.

Expertise for the faculty that are teaching. We also have something called senior Fellows, and this is my favorite part of Jackson. So senior fellows are practitioners from the field. These might be people who were, you know, senior officials at the World Bank. They might be former ambassadors, they might be military generals, they might be.

You know, people who work at the senior levels of a tech company and these they come and are appointed at Jackson for one to three years. And here's what's different about our senior fellows. I mean, a lot of schools will have fellowships or fellows. Usually these are sort of research affiliations where people get an office and they get maybe get a small budget and they can kind of be around to to do research.

Our senior fellows are required to teach courses. So they actually teach the undergrads, I'm sorry, the graduate students, they also teach undergrads while they're at Jackson. And it's a really great compliment to the, you know, the tenured appointed faculty in terms of balancing that theoretical knowledge with the practical experience. The senior fellows are also great to know because.

You know, sometimes they're actually going back into government or back into the private sector, so they're really great to create some of that professional network into these arenas that you might be interested in.

And I'm just going to describe what's on the slide right here. You know, I have a few photos of some different senior fellows and you can go to our website and you can see all the senior fellows that we have there. But.

You know, we have one who was the climate envoy for the United Nations, two former ambassadors, a journalist who used to be embedded in war zones. She actually now heads our international leadership program, former governor of Vermont, Howard Dean, former presidential candidate, but also foreign policy experts who teaches class on foreign policy. So this is really, you know, a a wide range of different.

Fields of expertise. We also have an exciting program at Jackson called the World Fellows Program. These, I kind of think of them as the movers and shakers around the world. They are just people who have really made major impact in in their countries in different areas. Again, I would recommend that you go to our website and just take a look at our incoming Royal Fellows this fall. They're really amazing.

You know, they might be a documentary filmmaker. One year we had the first woman to lead a police force in India. She let she lead like 2000 policemen. She was the first female to achieve that level. So kind of all different areas and.

They're really neat. Another opportunity. They come in, they don't teach courses, but they give talks and they're basically there to, you know, mentor and interact with our students. And they are also a fantastic way.

To generate a network in different countries and and in different fields.

So that's the faculty so.

In terms of the future, because people want to know where do people go after Jackson? So our career development is really great at Jackson. One thing I should note is that because our MVP program is so small, as I mentioned, it's 30 to 35 students. One of the great things is that our students can get really individualized.

Attention and counseling from the different resources that we have. So I mentioned before with the flexibility piece that you can take courses, you know, from a number from basically any department or school. And you might kind of think, Oh my God, that must be overwhelming. And it can be because Yale is a big university, but we have a Dean of graduate studies who can meet with each student to help you choose your kind of basket of courses.

We have a Dean of students who can is always accessible for students and meets with them one-on-one for a number of different things, whether it's to plan a conference or to create a new student group or, you know, just to balance other things that might be happening with their in their personal life, with their academics. But we also have a Dean of career development and she meets one-on-one with every student.

At the beginning of the year to discuss what they are interested in. And in fact in the first year of the NPP program, students do take trips as a cohort to Washington, DC to meet with perspective employers to New York to connect with alumni. And this kind of again, sort of starts jump starting kind of where they might be headed after graduation. So this is like really on the front end.

Between the first and second years at Jackson, the MPP students are required to complete an internship. Umm, and our Dean of Career development will also help place you in that internship program. And I'll talk about that. We do fund that and I'll talk about that when I get to the other funding pieces. But really, that summer internship is intended to get your foot in the door into the field or even the organization.

That you really want to launch into following graduation. So you know, again, this is sort of progressing your career path while you are at Jackson.

And then you in your second year, the Dean of Career services will also meet with you individually to kind of help you.

Get to that actual job post graduation. And so, you know, in our summer experiences, students work all over the world.

About 30% in the United States, umm, 18% in Europe, 16% in Asia, uh, 16% in Africa umm, and then 2% in Latin America, 2% in the Middle East umm, and the in terms of the kinds of experiences they do for the summer umm, these include multilateral organizations, nonprofits, government, umm and the private sector.

After graduation, we're kind of evenly divided between the public sector, the private sector and the nonprofit sector. We do have about 11% of our students who go on to additional study. Some of our students might be doing joint degrees or they might go on to other programs.

And then again after graduation, our students pursue careers all around the world. The top five?

Our United States, Europe.

United States being about 60%, Europe and Asia 11% each, and then the remainder in Central and South America and Africa.

I will just quickly hear them on the family piece here. Tell you a little bit about New Haven. I mentioned that I came back to New Haven in 2006. I've been here.

Oh my God, like 19 years and I, you know, I will say it's a really.

It's a great town. It's sort of got all of the.

All the things that you want in a college town in terms of having, you know, fun restaurants and bars and theater and, you know, all this kind of stuff, but also some aspects of a of a city. So it's not.

You know, the kind of like a Podug town that, you know, you have to get out of in order to enjoy things. As I mentioned, just theater and, you know, really high quality restaurants, music. There's always activities. And of course, you know, Yale is attracting.

You know, talent, speakers, there's just always something going on to enjoy in town.

You also are there's a train station.

Right in New Haven, which can zip you up to Boston in two hours or down to New York in less than two hours. And just as a little fun fact, you can thank J Edgar Hoover, the 1st and longest serving director of the FBI, for that. Because when he used to go from Washington, DC up to Boston, you know, wanted that stop in New Haven. Actually, there's an FBI office.

In New Haven, which is because of him. So I just think that's a fun fact that the Connecticut FBI offices in New Haven, not in Hartford. We also have a number of student organizations that.

You know, they're growing, but they do everything from, you know, discussion salons to we have a women's group. Anything that you kind of want to center an interest around, you can.

Make that happen at Jackson. And of course there's a number of university wide organizations that students can get involved in as well.

Just going to check back in on my questions and see. OK alright, so you guys are not putting this in the chat. The questions, I was like looking in the chat and it was empty and I was like, I guess nobody really has any questions, but let me just quickly stop right here.

Nelly, I think if you joined a little bit late, I for some reason unable to share my screen. So that's why no one can see the slides, That's why I'm kind of describing them to you, but.

Please feel free to ask any questions about them.

Some of these are admissions questions, so I'm going to wait to answer some of these.

OK.

So yes, for those of you who can't see the slides.

That's normal for this particular webinar. I apologize. So the funding piece is really what I find really exciting.

So for our MPP program, we do provide full tuition fellowships for all incoming students our our tuition for this year.

Was.

$60,600 So everybody coming in had their tuition covered. Some people came in, for example, with a Fulbright and we, you know, basically, you know, compliment whatever is leftover from the Fulbright to make sure their tuition is covered. And other people have other types of funding. But in some way everyone's tuition is covered. And we really do that to make sure that the Jackson program is accessible.

To everyone, roughly half of our students receive a full stipend as well that will help them cover the full cost of attendance in last year and this year's incoming class, everyone did get ended up with kind of some stipend and our stipends are are given on both a merit and need basis. So this is a very generously funded program you should not let that stop you from.

You know, apply that you shouldn't let the sticker price, I guess, stop you from applying. We are also incredibly generous with trying to give stipends to students who are coming from underrepresented regions of the world. Also, I mentioned that a summer internship, the summer internship.

Is also we give funding up to $6000.

And the reason that this is important is that that $6000 can help your housing costs and, you know, kind of help you make it through the summer, which means that if there is an organization that you really want to get experience at, you basically just let them know that you are willing to work for free. In other words, just lets employers off the hook from having to pay you to work over the summer, which really gives you a leg up in this summer to.

Get your foot in the door wherever you want to go that summer. Funding is available to everyone, regardless of whether you're getting any other kind of statement or anything like that.

So let's talk about the application, 'cause I see there's a lot of questions about the application and a few, this kind of also gets to some of the distinctions between the MPP and the MAS. By the way, on the funding piece, I should note that the MAS program is not funded.

You are required to indicate your source of funding when you apply. And the reason for that, as I mentioned before, is that the MAS program is a program intended for people who are already in their careers. Typically the kinds of students that we have coming into the MAS program, they might be Fulbright that are getting funded to come to do a year long program. Often they are people who are being sponsored by their government.

You know, they might be working at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and they have funding to to send their employees to do a degree program for a year in the United States, for example. Sometimes they are our own U.S. government agencies that are sending people. But really this is.

For actually one second.

I'm sorry, one second I think I have something beep.

Melissa, I'm going to step out. I I hear like a fire thing going on. So let me just stop one second.

Sorry about that guys. I had left something on the stove so I was about to burn my house down while I'm giving this webinar. OK, I'm glad I caught that. So the MAS program is really intended for people who are mid career and coming here and then going back to their actual job. So I should also emphasize that for the MAS program, we don't really provide that career guidance that I was.

Talking about before that is really.

A focus for the MPP program, and I'm just kind of pushing that out there for the people who might be thinking about the MAS program, is that this it's not really a program that is for people looking to make pivots in their career and things like that, because I think that sometimes that can get confusing when you just read the.

Read the descriptions of the programs so admissions requirements.

The I'm going to kind of go in the order of the cycle of the admission cycle.

The MAS program. The one year program.

That has no core requirements, that is not funded and for mid year professionals that application is due on November 1st. It has a $100 application fee and that we do not waive that. So that's the application deadline there. There's no GRE required to apply to the MAS program, the MPP program, the two year program.

Does require agre umm. The deadline for that is January 2nd. However, if you apply by December 1st, we do waive the application fee on The application fee is $75.00, but if you apply by December 1st, any application submitted by then, it's automatically waived. After December 1st to January 2nd, there is a fee unless you are applying through a specific partnership.

Which is listed on our website, in which case we do grant selective fee waivers.

I mentioned the GRE is required for both applications. You are required to submit 3 letters of recommendation. I strongly recommend that you.

Provide at least one faculty reference that can speak to your abilities as a student.

And then the other two, you know, you can submit professional references. I always say like kind of step back and look at your application holistically. If you feel like either your undergraduate grades or your GRE scores kind of don't reflect your full academic potential, you may want to submit, you know, an additional or have all three of them be faculty references.

I think, you know, making that combination.

Call really depends on kind of how far out of school you're applying, how strong the other aspects of your application are, because the recommendations are really there to, you know, add information that we don't know or answer questions about your application that we might have after reading it. So, you know, that's something that you you should kind of assess looking at your application.

Holistically, we also require a personal statement and this is sort of open-ended. Umm, what we're really looking for is for you to describe your.

Interest and experience in global affairs. This might include, you know, what you've done like, you know, spent time in another country, or maybe what you've been focusing on in in your the time that you've been working.

And really to kind of explain what your focus is and what you hope to get hope you to concentrate on when you come to Jackson. We also require a resume of one to two pages and then your undergraduate transcript in terms of.

I mentioned that automatic fee waiver for MPP applications.

By December 1st, I should note that it's OK if your test scores or your recommendations are coming in after that.

They can be submitted.

Not a great setup right now.

Those can come in later. They don't even have to be in exactly by January 2nd usually if they can come in.

Within a week.

Of the of the deadline, maybe the first week of January, we can still include them in your file. So you should not let the fact that you may not be able to take the GRE until December stop you from actually submitting your part of the application in time to get that automatic fee waiver.

And as someone who writes recommendations and is sometimes a little bit late getting them in.

We don't penalize you for that. We will kind of remind you if, if anything is missing and you can, you know, go and harass the people that are supposed to be writing for you. I've had that happen. So, you know, they, they understand. So those are the kind of the basics I should add in terms of English language because I know I have some people on this webinar who are tuning in from different parts of the world.

We do require.

The TOEFL or we accept the IELTS and Cambridge English if your undergraduate education was taught in a language under other than English.

If you did your undergraduate education in the United States, if you did it in an institution where they taught the courses in English, you do not need to take the.

English language test any of the English language tests so.

That let's see I think I answered libas question which was that.

OK.

Jackie is asking whether there's any way for the GRE to be waived. Unfortunately, right now, no, we do require that. And I know that in some places it can be challenging to take that, but, and I know that it can be offered like kind of more sporadically depending on the country, but hopefully.

You know, between now and December, that's a pretty long runway, so you'll hopefully plan for that.

Is 7 years working too long to go for the MPP? This is James, I'm looking for a career change after the MPP. Umm, it's not too long. Uh, we do have umm, some people who are farther into their careers. I will say it, you might be a little bit on the older side of the cohort if you've been working that long.

Our average age of students coming in is 27. So, but you know, if I think you're asking the right question, which is if you're doing something and you really want to, you know, take a turn in your career, you want that career guidance you are looking to acquire, you know, new skills, new knowledge. The MPP is the program you should be looking at rather than the MAS.

Notice that there are currently.

Giselle is asking 3 world fellow liaisons listed on Jackson's website. Can you please confirm if this is the average number of world fellows typically appointed each year? So the liaisons are not the world fellows?

I don't want to be searching for the right page right now, but we typically have, I want to say around 20 world fellows each year. The liaisons are typically our own.

Graduate students who kind of work with the World Fellows. So if you become an MPP student, you may, you might be able to be a liaison and they get to basically they help like plan the programming for the World Fellows. Because when the World Fellows come here, you know, they're doing, they're, they're learning a lot about not just New Haven, but you know, they go to UN and, and do all these other things. So the liaisons are our graduate students. The World Fellows are separate from the actual liaison, so.

They should be on a separate part of our website.

Francesca is asking if there's any scholarship opportunities and I think I answered that. I don't know, Francesca, if you are talking about, you know, in case you don't get the fellowship for or you don't get a stipend, we don't offer any scholarships beyond the full tuition fellowship that we give to everyone.

But what a lot of students do, if they are only getting a partial stipend, we do have opportunities to be a teaching fellow or a research assistant where you can earn money to cover that gap. And I should just note that those are pretty generously paid. So typically the students are receiving, for example, a half stipend and they are teaching fellow or research assistant they are able to.

Cover the full cost of their attendance to Jackson. So, you know, it kind of brings me to a different point also, which is that New Haven is, has a relatively low cost of living compared to, you know, Boston or Washington, DC or New York. It's a pretty reasonable and affordable town. And so your money can go a long way here longer.

Then maybe in some other locations.

Umm, I am, let me see if there's anything in the chat. If you have any other questions umm, please feel free to put them in umm.

Let's see, I don't see anything else. I'm trying to think if there's anything else that, umm, I have it covered. I will. Let me talk a little bit about the classes too, umm, and how that works for our Jackson students. Umm, I think as a Jackson student, you kind of get the best of all worlds. Uh, so as I mentioned, our students take courses in other departments and programs and schools.

And because they're so few Jackson students, you know, they're a pretty small cohort. And because they have such a wide variety of interests, they generally don't have any problem getting into, you know, a class at the law school or a class at the Business School or whatever they want to take.

Jackson faculty also offer courses in Jackson. So for example, the courses I teach, I teach national security law, I teach a course on Russian information warfare.

Those are listed as Jackson classes. I give preference to Jackson students for those classes, and my classes tend to be smaller seminars, and I think that's pretty typical for art Jackson classes. So, you know, you sort of get first preference for the courses that are offered through Jackson. You don't have any real issue getting into the courses elsewhere. And so it's a place where, you know, you in many ways have the most access of even at Yale of any of the other students.

To the academic resources that are available.

And you benefit within Jackson from having smaller class sizes, which you know, can be really helpful in terms of getting to know your faculty member and, you know, if you need recommendations for other things later on. And then, you know, also connecting with those types of networks. I know that with my students who are interested in careers and intelligence, for example, I'm always happy to connect them with people.

In in that field. So I think that the small size really does make a difference. And you know, in terms of kind of the why behind the flexibility, I'll just kind of offer this.

You know, I study the challenges of disinformation on democracy, and one of the things that I think is.

Really unique.

About that particular problem is that it is interdisciplinary. There is, there's no specific, you know, place that that problem fits in. It's a political science problem, it's a communications problem, it's a technology problem, you know, it's a history problem. So, you know, having this interdisciplinary approach really makes sense. And I don't think that what I study is unique in that way. I think if you look at any kind of big global challenge, whether it's climate change.

Whether it's, you know, food security, whether it's public health, it's really hard to see any major problem fitting in neatly into a single academic silo. And so I think what Jackson allows you to do is really bring to bear the languages of a lot of different disciplines in your ability to understand how to tackle these problems and gives you the right tool kit to start a policy career.

OK.

I'm not seeing any other questions.

Umm, you all can still hear me, right? I don't have any new things since 9:29, so now I'm hoping that everything is still functioning.

OK.

I'm just waiting. I wish I could see you guys 'cause I can't.

Tell if there's anything else that you want to know, I will then leave it there. I know we're 10 minutes early and I'm sorry for the technical problems and also for my fire hazard during the during the webinar, though I hope the apparent the cameo by my cat made-up for it a little bit.

I would love for you to, you know, stay tuned with other things that are happening at Jackson. You should be on a mailing list where you get our other events that we might be doing this summer. We've had some faculty who have had coffee chats in different parts of the world. So that's an opportunity to meet a faculty member if they are coming to a coffee shop near you in the fall. We also have.

To visit days. So if you happen to be umm, in the United States or traveling around the East Coast in October or November, umm, you should look at our schedule and see if you can stop by. Because I think one of the best things to do is to visit Jackson in person. Umm, and it can give you a real feel for that sense of community that we have here. Umm Lothar, you're asking if we can share the deck with you later? I will try to do that. I will see if there's a way.

That we can do that when we send it. Otherwise, I hope that by the next webinar we will have this technical glitch figured out so that I can actually share everything.

Umm, I will say goodbye to you, uh, and I hope to either see you in person at one of our recruiting events, umm, or on our visit day. And I very much hope to, uh, see and read your application this fall. So thank you so much for joining in.