Fall Admissions Webinar (October 2021)

Hello hello.

Hello everyone, hopefully you can hear me.

As we wait for people to connect, I'll go over some of the logistics here.

Good thank you Dalton loud and clear. This webinar is being recorded so if you have any technical issues or have to bounce early or whatever the case may be, you'll be able to watch this later and obviously this is audio so you don't have a chance to verbally audibly chat with me, but you hopefully are finding the chat and you will be able to ask your questions there and.

Either ask as we go or we can answer questions at the end so we will work that out. Happy to play that by ear. Hopefully I'll get to your questions before you ask them. Maybe and if you are having any trouble hearing or something, we do have a close captioning. There should be a little CC in the top right hand corner of your share screen. Or if you want to make this larger you can expand the screen to see some of the slides.

So feel free to do that and you can always just refresh your browser if anything gets out of sync. So great. Glad you're here. Will give people another minute to connect.

I will say my name is Melissa McGinnis and I'm the assistant director of admissions here at the Jackson Institute for Global Affairs at Yale University, and I want to apologize in advance. I am fried. We had actually our first in person event today, the first time in two years, so we are thankful that the weather is holding and we had a tent.

Outside and so we had a rainy weekend, which meant lots of witness, so I was it's been going on 12 hours that we started getting ready for that. But hopefully it sounds like it was a success and a small group of people got to come to campus with proof of vaccination and masks in classes, but they did get to attend some classes and have some individual lunch with students, so I'm not.

Best to to brag and say haha. You didn't get to do that but just wanted to, you know say that so feels like we're getting to be a little bit more normal, hopefully and maybe will have in person events in the future right now. Probably plan a couple of maybe virtual visit days going forward because New England weather gets a little dicey so.

But watch our calendar. I'm assuming that's how many of you have found this, so we're glad to have you here at least. And learning a little bit more about Jacksons. So alright, let me move through some of these slides here, and I will apologize again if I.

I'm getting a little disjointed because as I said, I'm on a 12 hour work day. So far my stand up desk just to hopefully, you know, keep me on top of things. Then I want to make sure you get some great information out of this. So if I forget anything, please feel free to ping me a question. So I already know that you can hear me so loud and clear. I've introduced myself and I'd love to feel free to shout out where you're coming from so you can.

Use the chat so I know you're using the chat. One of my favorite things about doing these virtual events is that people are coming from, you know, uh, logging in from all over the world. The registrants were from many, many countries and many, many states within the US. So if you can still hear me and please feel free to put put where you're logging in from in the chat box. 'cause I love to hear that and this is being recorded, but I think I have this on just.

First name last initial so you don't give away any of your private information that you want to so great I'm seeing some semi locals in NYC. Wow, we've got Turkey. India got Boston up just north Brazil, Colorado couple from DC Ecuador on the Sydney Australia. I mean there's some crazy time zones going on here. So welcome everybody. This just gets me OK. You've given me a little bit of a buzzsaw.

Wait, so I had hit a wall a little bit ago after this long long day, but having you here from all over the world is super exciting, so hopefully we'll get some questions answered for you so you can learn a little bit more about taxes. I apologize if you're a repeat visitor.

You might hear some of the same things, but often the questions are different and I might touch on something that you haven't heard before. If you are a repeat visitor, but hopefully some of you are maybe new to Jackson and I will learn a little bit about this, so I think the biggest news that some of you may or may not know is that.

A couple years ago now, everything blends together in in COVID world pandemic world, but we, the the Provost and the board all approved for Jackson to become Yale's next professional school. So that's big news. We launch officially with that title if you will, and all the background information that you won't see or notice in the fall of 2022.

So exciting times is the first time this has happened since the School of Management. You know, back in the 70s and so, again, this is a really big deal and a lot of fun things are happening. Because of that. We had our degree name change, which some of you may have may be aware of. We went from an M8 and MP, the core of who we are is not changing. We're hoping to increase our own tenured faculty so we'll have more control over that.

But the personality, the size of the MPP anyway, is not expected to change.

And the the mid career is growing a little bit. We've already started that this year. So little things like that. But again, if you've heard stories from alumni or current students about the the personality and the vibe of the DL Jackson community, that is not expecting to change. So hopefully again, just the increased faculty were adopting some centers, some new centers under our purview.

And hopefully we'll be able to provide even more funding than we already do, so there's there's things like that that are changing, but it is super exciting times.

Happy to answer questions about that as we go, but why don't we just dive in a little bit more and please forgive me as I drink some hot tea.

Again, I have been talking all day long with one on one appointments with the people who were visiting today, so I can already hear the war belenus in my voice, so I apologize. Hopefully it is not too affecting you all too much so I when I do these and people ask about you know what makes Jackson unique? What makes Yale different from our peer institutions? I as I've done so many of these webinars.

Over the last few years I sort of came up with these five FS as that as I was talking about the the flexibility and the funding I was like I think I could do something with this and I want people to. I wanted to stick right? So I want people have something they can remember and so I had this a-ha moment of what I like to call the five FS. Nothing officials, not Jackson sanctioned or anything. It's kind of my thing. I don't even know if my boss realizes.

That I do this, but I think it really does give a good picture of what's unique about the Yale Jackson community, so I'm going to go through some of these really quickly. I want to be mindful of answering your specific questions. Hopefully I will pre answer them as we go, but let's dive in. So I we have the family. I like family, might sound a little bizarre family. What does that to do with grad school? I think the vibe of the.

Size and the community and location which will talk about, I think, adds to that the family, the community, if you will, and then the flexibility of the curriculum, which is one of the hallmarks of the Jackson program. We also have faculty will talk about faculty themselves and sort of be affiliated people like senior fellows and World Fellows which are meeting in the tent right now, even though it's dark right now and then funding piece.

And then future. Obviously, if you're choosing looking at grad schools, presumably you're thinking about what your fruit future career is going to be like. So one disclaimer as we go through when I talk about the community and the culture and the resources of of the academics and whatnot. I'm talking about the entire yield Jackson community. I will say when we talk about curriculum, I'm kind of focusing on the PTR MPP. If anybody here is.

Interested in the one year MAS? Please don't just tune out and I did an Ms specific webinar couple maybe a month ago or so.

It's the MAS is pretty straightforward to one year, eight courses, no core currently, no funding, so most of them are usually externally sponsored. It's as simple as that, otherwise the resources are really the same, so keep that in mind. I'm happy to answer any questions you may ask questions during the Q&A portion towards the end, so when I'm talking about requirements and core and curriculum it is going to be the two year MPP.

So if there are mass here, just keep that in mind as we go on. But when I'm talking about something like the family F, it is about the Jackson community. Our program is really small. We are probably the smallest. I think we're the smallest program out there. And you know, I personally spent 22 years prior to this at our friends down in in Central Jersey. There's a. There's a little Ivy League institution down there where I spent many, many years since I've been in this.

Public International Space. For a long time.

Longer than I probably should have admitted, but they are probably the next largest in size, so our cohorts are about 30 to 35 students, and that is one of the biggest advantages students and alumni have gone through the program that say that was the one of the biggest deals for them, so having that small size actually helps create community because there's not a lot of competition. Everybody sort of doing their own thing. If any of you have.

Followed any of our.

On line.

BIOS and actually I want to make sure I posted some links as I go so you have them just in case you're not finding these things, so I will post these in the chat myself, so if you haven't found our and I'm laughing, I still have my name tag on from today. If you have not noticed the student BIOS.

I think you'll find that.

That's what makes Jackson unique to not only our size, but there's even with such a small size there's tremendous depth and breadth within the cohorts, so.

Peruse through those at your leisure. But if you haven't already, but hopefully you'll get a good picture of of how we bring this diverse group of people together who are focusing on so many different things coming from different regions and touching on all different areas of global affairs so that and the location, I think one in the immediate space were located in this giant mansion, and this beautiful tree lined St on central campus and in New Haven, CT. And for those of you, especially in in.

Australia and Turkey or maybe even on the West Coast, may not know exactly where we're located, because we're not like in one of the big hubs like New York DC, but we are probably halfway between New York City and Boston, and we're right on what's called the Northeast Corridor. Literally, the train line is called the Northeast Corridor, so we have a lot of commuters. People live in this area and commute into Manhattan. Take Amtrak.

Train right into DC so we're actually in a really good space so.

I think that that adds to it as well and were removed enough that you can kind of focus on your academic experience. We've had number of people, there's a. There's a video somewhere in our videos on our website of students who were initially concerned they want to be so far from DC. If that's their, that's their jam with their future career.

But realizing that being here and actually with our senior fellows and all of the things, there's so much that goes on here at the broader Jackson and the broader Yelp community, that a lot of the DC people are coming up and they are guest lectures, lectures and in in event lectures and all sorts of things that are going on. So people who wanted the DC vibe have not felt like they've missed out on anything by being up here in New Haven.

A little bit off the beaten path and soon life we have a number of events that happened that go on and that contribute to to the community at large. Whether it's sharing about each other through the text salon or the different Jackson women and exciting thing I mentioned, there's not a lot of.

Big things are or personality things that are changing with us becoming a school, but because we're separating from the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, there are some things that we do need to build from the ground up a little bit, and so our students are involved in building the DEI initiatives and student government and all of these things. So it's a cool time for Jackson students who have actually a say in how we are crafting the future of Jackson. So it's really cool time. Second half.

Family and then we have flexibility. I mentioned that already with the with the one year MAS. 100% flexibility 8 classes. Your choice. The MPP is 16 courses and we have 4 core. Then we have a stats class E con class history class and a political science class. So there's some changes I think that might be on the next slide of.

I go into a little bit of the curricular changes with the change in the degree name.

And yes, so I I think we the idea is I want to make sure this is clear.

Excuse me that we have the four core and then the rest of the classes you can take at Jackson or anywhere else at Yale's professional school, so keep that in mind. A lot of people ask about doing joint degrees, which is encouraged and even recommended in some cases, as long as it makes sense for you to do that. But be mindful that you don't have to be a joint degree student to take classes. At most commoners school management, the law, school, school, Public Health School in the environment.

Depending on what your core policy interest is, so I'm going to also paste in here the course database. I think that's important for you to look over and research as you're planning your application because, unlike some programs that have very specific paths of study, you truly do create your own path, right? You're designing your area of study so.

That again, is one of the main advantages that current students and alumni talk about that the size and the flexibility. But be mindful that if you do a keyword search on this course database.

Depending on your area of interest, hundreds of classes might come up so that could be kind of an overwhelming prospect. So the more you know about what you want to get out of a Jackson degree and a Yale Jackson because it goes beyond just the Jackson community, you have access to potentially thousands of classes, so be mindful of that and I will say flashing forward a little bit. You're not if you end up in enrolling.

Student, you're not choosing those classes on your own right. You have one on him. One help going back to the size issue.

You get that one on one help so they the Student Affairs Office works with you individually to help you plan your curriculum as an enrolling as enrolled student.

But do keep in mind that knowing what you want to get out of Jackson is.

Strengthens your application, right? So you don't need to tell us. These are my 16 or eight courses from as you know, to tell us exactly what those are, but think about like this is my pathway. This is my certificate or whatever you would other programs might call it. You're building your own, so you need to tell us what you want to get out of this, but then you need to tell us what this is, right? What are you coming to Jackson? Because you feel like you need area studies? Or are you coming to Jackson because?

Maybe need to brush up on some language, or maybe you need some of the tools and want to take some higher level stats and econ or or some of the languages like Python And R and things that are above my my capacity so there are different reasons that people are choosing Jackson and.

You can do just about anything, and so that's why it's important for you to tell us that when you're doing your application, all right let's go. I did mention I want to talk about some of the new program features. The flexibility is not new. We did add the political science component, so we could sort of have like a hard having more of the policy type classes that most people took anyway prior to adding the 4th core class. But to have the have the public policy.

In our degree we wanted to make sure that that was was included in the curriculum and we're adding sort of leadership components. A lot of writing components are being added to the core. There's you know there is. You'll see here we have listed some areas of study. These are more common ones. That doesn't mean that's the only thing that you can do, it's just some of the more common common areas.

I will post in really quickly 'cause I know it's hard to find and also I want to make sure that I tell you so at the bottom of this link that I'm going to give. You are some sample matrices.

And so basically what they do is they hone that I gave you the course database which again could have thousands of classes available. If you do keyword search the court, the matrices that Jackson puts out are the most common classes that Jackson students take. You'll still see there might be a dozen classes in anthropology or dozen in the law school or wherever, right so, but it does help give you kind of hold that in a little bit. So that could be helpful to some.

Who might end up a little bit overwhelmed? So anyway, I mentioned about. I think the writing program we are moving some things around a little bit feedback task forces were given, feedback was given after some task, forces with current students and alumni, we are moving the IQAN core to the spring semester.

To enable people to, if they are not prepared in having any economics prior to coming to Jackson.

That they could take.

A prerequisite, if you will. I know you wanna call it that, but a class that could get you up to speed, so they'll probably be in the coming years of diagnostic tests to see where you are in in economic skill. So that way you have the ability to take something in the fall semester before the core in the spring, and that's important 'cause for many, many years, we've been strongly encouraging or strongly recommending enrolling students.

Take a summer class as a refresher so this kind of helps that it works that piece into things, so those are really the major curriculum changes. Which maybe if you weren't familiar with the MA before you didn't realize these were changes, but some people have been following Jackson for awhile and I want to make sure to make that clear.

Alright, next slide faculty. Pardon me. Another drink. I'm hearing the voice go.

OK, so the faculty now I am using faculty as sort of an all encompassing thing with with people a category with people who aren't even necessarily considered faculty because I did want to talk about the World Fellows a little bit. So when we talk about faculty we have what we call our ladder faculty. So I mentioned already that will have more control over those in our own tenured faculty when we become a school, and but you know, there's such an.

Interdisciplinary focus, a lot of faculty of joint appointments with other departments within the community, and I think the the senior fellows are such a huge part of the Jackson experience and you know, they're usually hear their appointments are usually about one to three years. There's a couple have been around for probably as long as Jackson has been in existence over decade. They stay. There's some who've been teaching for many years. They love it.

Uhm, and it's a great community and so and they are so something I like to to make sure you know is obviously if you're here researching this program, you're probably researching other programs and all of these top tier schools have these kinds of people through their doors, right? They're coming and going, but in my 20 plus years of experience in this public international affairs arena.

From the stories that I hear and know.

I feel like here at Jackson they are more involved than.

I could have even imagined, obviously that will be pre and hopefully post COVID because it was, you know, sharing the same coffee machine down the hall with the senior fellows and the students in the World Fellows in the in the student lounge.

So these senior fellows are an incredible enhancement to the curriculum. Being a professional, focused degree and having people who have been in the in the real world of global affairs for many, many years along time careers their their diplomats there.

Military generals, their CEOs, they're all these people, and they're coming and they're sharing their actual real-world experience. And often they teach practicum courses about how to do a lot of this stuff hands on. So they're an amazing compliment to the Jackson community and really quickly, I didn't want to touch on the world Fellows. They are what's interesting about them is they're here to learn. So every year, 16 World Fellows are admitted to the program.

And they're here to do all sorts of.

Taking classes and doing networking but they contribute to the Jackson community in a tremendous way. Students apply to be late liaisons to work with them and also they're giving their own lectures about who they are and what their career has been like. They're rising in their careers. I mean, we've had. I mean, it. Diversity among the 16 people, I think last year we had a Nigerian Olympian and we had an Iraqi comedian and and these.

People who are you know doing like humanitarian work and all sorts of really important stuff in in global affairs. So you consider them part of your alumni network if you will. They may not be traditional yellow alumni, but they are definitely part of the community that.

Uhm?

You know ties Jackson together, so yeah, so hopefully that's real quickly talks about the faculty, the funding piece.

This is pretty straight forward. Doesn't matter where you are, international or not. 'cause I get that question. Is there anything different for people who are? Who are international students? No, you need to check the box in the application that says I am applying to funding from Jackson and we will consider you for funding. So it's a straightforward is that we do want to know if you're externally funded. A lot of people are employee sponsored or coming with special fellowships. That's important not just from.

Funding piece, you know we don't worry about the funding with admissions decisions, but often the people are coming with funding. Or are those people who are sort of prevented or talking you know picker for those in the states might? Though, Pickering, Foreign Affairs Fellows, Rangel Fellows, PPI Fellows, Truman Scholars, peace core, like all these fieldpiece we're done come with money but prevented fellowships that are, you know, people have been involved and on the fast track in.

In this global affairs space so.

Often there they you know they come with funding sometimes as well so.

I'm not explaining that piece really well, but just no, it's really straightforward. Check the box.

Historically, at least the last few years, the minimum award we've been offering is half tuition, so you can sort of know. I mean, our funding is merit based, UM?

But you could almost assume that at least the base award might be need based 'cause you were asking for it and you need it. We will offer you something, but then everything else on top of that really is is merit based. Following sort of your basic traditional data points, your work experience or GPA cherries. All of those kinds of things are taken into account, and the good news is, again, with us becoming a school with the additional fund raising, our hope is we'll be able to fund students more than we already do so.

And also for the summer internships that is required between your first and second year, there is funding available if you end up in an unpaid internship, I think it's up to $5000.

So funding pretty important piece and then finally future and we there are numerous things.

It's kind of mind-blowing. We have a lot of resources on the website. I didn't mention these student experiences, but a lot of people ask what people do during the summer internship, so I will find that piece for you. This data is.

Actual data, so if you look back, obviously everything last year is virtual, so it might be a little weird. Make sure you drill down a few years ago to get more of a non pandemic picture of what happens here in the Jackson experience. So it shows you not names for privacy sake but actual employers and locations so we have that piece and then the same thing for the jobs.

This link is the overview of jobs and if you drill down to the bottom of that page, it's the same exact thing.

It shows I think 5-6 years of data of where like the first jobs at Jackson students have taken so with.

We are a member of APSIA. If you're not following apsia, you probably should. We actually? Founding member of Apsia, need glasses to type a little bit better absolute.org so they have events and there's 30 some odd members schools. And again, you think Jackson has only been around short period of time, but where the iteration of the Yale IR program that has been around for decades and they were one of the founding members of HEP C. Oh, so it's a great organization.

Follow up.

As a member of Apsia, schools are required to have their own dedicated career services. So in addition to Yale's resources, we actually have our own career development office at Jackson and again size advantage. They meet one on one with all the enrolling students and at the beginning right, they're meeting with you as soon as you arrive to do your intake on what you want to do for your summer internship and give you directions if they do. Weekly newsletters, try to figure out what it is you want to do long.

Terms so they can help you steer you in the right direction. Obviously you do need to put in some of your own work, but they'll make sure you're aware of schedules and do all the traditional traditional things like resume feedback, mock interviews, and things like that, so there's constant.

You know alumni and employers like coming in. I think there will be even more because virtual. We all know is here to stay, so they'll probably presumably be a hybrid mix of those things from eventually in person visits. And I will say that every year there's usually in a alumni networking trip to DC into New York City where the career Office puts together meeting with employers. And usually there's a big alumni.

Reception that is actually happening next week during break, which is either next week or the week after. So getting on a bus heading down to DC. So that is happening. It won't have the large this year. We're still kind of in transition, transitioning hopefully permanently out of COVID times, but they are having this alumni.

Event and.

Uhm, meeting with employers and whatnot. I I've gone down when they had the big reception, which is great. 'cause that's the one I was mentioning. Like the World Fellows might come too if they're in the area every once in awhile, but doing the London as well, not paying for everybody to get on a plane, but it, there's a lot of things that actually the career development Office does. And and we we have split career development with the alumni office. So now we know that's the growth behind the scenes of Jackson becoming a school.

It can only better serve you as Jackson students. Having like career development and alumni separated a little bit really allows a lot more of these kinds of things to happen. Additional bodies on the back end doing some of this so really quickly the practical stuff which maybe you want to hear about is our deadline. Final deadline is January 2nd, but if you apply by December 1st, your fee is automatically waived.

Oh yeah, there's nothing special you have to do. Just make sure you apply before midnight on December 1st and that is waived.

It doesn't matter if you apply early, is not any admissions advantage. So you we don't do rolling admissions, we make decisions. Meetings throughout February and we make the decisions in the middle of March.

And the the the thing to consider 2A timing. I get this. We get this question a lot, but if you apply by December 1st.

The two main things that are outside of your control are the Jerry's, which we do still require for the MPP. Sorry it is. Wait for the MAS, but the Jerry scores and your recommendations.

Can all come in within days or so of the January deadline, so.

Think about that. Just because you're applying by December 1st doesn't mean all of your components have to be in by December 1st. You'll get the fee waiver as long as you submit your portions of the application.

Tricky tricky piece this year. Well, we've this has been the case for many years, but we are. Our application is still hosted by the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences for this year. There's our final year with them, so there are some technical, potentially confusing pieces that you need to know about and I want to share those and then we will dive into some questions. The biggest piece.

Is for those of you applying to the MPP, you will actually log into the application and not find reference to the MPP, and that is because Jesus doesn't offer an MPP. So until we separate from Jesus which is in the fall.

We can't switch. We can't. They can't call it an MPP. So when you choose the dropdown and you see references, it's still an ma in the application form. Don't worry about that.

You're applying to the MPP. I promise it gets switched in the back and for those who end up enrolling next fall. OK, so something to keep in mind. Another piece that you know, I I, I knew it was coming I we all helped with the application testing over the summer. But the so Jesus has.

Changed their personal statement component a little bit. That could be really confusing, and because I think I think they changed the name of the statement of purpose to statement of academic intent or something like that. That's the required piece and they're adding an optional personal. I should have looked it up before I before I.

Started this personal narrative. I think, maybe so. Those are two separate ones, required ones not. And I'm concerned. I think the collective Jackson admissions staff is concerned that we will get too much of the academic piece.

Keep in mind we want a statement of purpose, regardless of what it's called, regardless of its title. When we say statement of purpose, we want to know, OK, yes. What was your academic background? Are you academically prepared for this? But we do wear a professional program. I say that over and over again. We want to know what your career path has been, or if you're right from undergrad. Emphasize those internships because average work experience is usually about three to five years, not a minimum. But we see work experiences.

Evidence of commitment to global affairs. So emphasizing that in your application how that.

How you've come to the point where you realize you need or want a graduate degree, why Jackson and what you want to do with it in your long term career goals?

It doesn't matter what you call it where you want to put it, whether an academic intent or or personal narrative. That's what we're looking for. So whether you split that into two pieces or you put it into the one required one.

Please be aware, don't get too bugged down in the technical issues of the application. If you're just researching now for the future, hopefully it'll be much more clear in the coming years. Next year we will have our own application.

Uh, and hopefully some of those things will be less confusing for those of you who are applying for the future, I think that is basically the component of of.

The overview of Jackson, what makes us stand out? What makes us unique? I'm happy to dive into questions, whether it's about.

Anything, whether it could be specific, admissions questions that I I didn't tap into the whole. Hopefully I've touched on what we're looking for, etc etc. So I will please feel free to utilize the chat we've got about. Looks like about 20 minutes and so please chat your questions and I will respond to them.

And we'll go from there otherwise.

Don't don't keep it slow because I'm running on 13 hours here, so just because I'm tired and want to go home doesn't mean I want to cut you short.

Might come.

Alright, we have a question. Thank you pooja. Thank you for the detailed overview. Is the MPP program stem designated? You know I need to research this more because I really don't think so because it's global affairs. And while the flexibility of the program could mean that somebody takes some maybe hard math, or you know between the econ and stats and taking classes at the school management, or maybe they are.

No doing other things in that often the science side. Or maybe their schooling the environment, but that's a sort of government visa question and I don't see how they would designate this as stem. I will let me so you have it. We have an office of International students services. I think it is. Let me post that since I do know there's a bunch of international students here.

I think they have a lot of resources.

And I don't want to say hard no, but I'm pretty sure that I'm I don't think because it's related to OPT usually right, and whether you can get like a couple years out of that. I think that's OSS for people from.

Which hopefully will help answer some visa questions. Sorry for that sort of non answer budget, but hopefully it gives you some directions. Gonzalo is saying thank you. Well, you're welcome. Do you have specific advice for joint degree programs? Great for, well, I can speak in general and then maybe more specific. Something to keep in mind is we're very siloed. The admissions processes are completely separate, so you have to apply to whether it's for the NBA or the last.

For public health or whatever it is, you do need to do it completely separately and we don't talk to each other until after the fact. We sort of once decisions are made. We might then share information, joint degree students do have for us. We require an additional joint degree statement memo, whatever you wanna call it, which obviously you'll you'll touch on it and your personal statement a little bit, but we want you to use that joint degree statement to flesh out the details a little bit more.

Typically, students apply to both at the same time and then defer the other program and start at Jackson, which is most common. It is possible to apply as a current student.

But the sequence is a little different, but you're already a little bit behind, but students do do that.

So there is some flexibility in the year that you split your semesters.

Really, it's almost your choice whether you want to be in residence officially in residence, Jackson or the other school, and that might be depending on when certain courses are offered or faculty teach or.

Yes, have to think about funding the funding piece. So if you get funding from Jackson and not the other school.

That means the year that you are splitting your time between Jackson and S1, for example.

Only the semester you're at Jackson, would you get the half year tuition, half of whatever your award is? So something to keep in mind as the funding piece gets a little tricky when you're looking at joint degrees, so I know I don't know unless you get special scholarships. I think we do probably offer the best running out of the other Yale professional schools, so I hope that helps a little bit, but just reiterating, it needs to make sense right? Doing a joint degree makes sense because you have access to those schools.

Just by being a Jackson student, so it's a matter of is there a reason to do the stay longer and do the additional grade and degree? And for many it is. We just can't have too many in the class because then we would have, you know, no second year students if we had a whole class of joint degree students. So we there's no quotas or whatnot. But like anything else we kind of like. Look for a balance within the class together. So think about how you stand out among the other joint degree students.

And when I say about a dozen, that's all joint degree students, not just someone. I hope that helps. Let's see. A marso Sims is gone. Further study in the outcome breakdown. What does that look like? PhD fellowships. It's the number expected to drop with the MATMP transition. That's a great question because I think part so we are professional program. Very few do go on to do a pH D. Some do.

But it's it's more rare and it sounds like you've done your research and you've seen that some people do that.

I mean part of the reason for probably one of many reasons that we switched from M8AMP is that MA and at Master of Arts often does signal stepping stone to a PhD or it signals academia, and because that's not for the core of who we are.

Adding the MPP.

Signals the professional degree that we already are professional degree that we already are. So it's really hard to say if that number will switch.

The flip side is there's a lot of international policy global affairs people out there who were hesitant to come to Jackson because we were in MA and they wanted to put MPP on their resume.

Time of the of the.

My pers me personal, not Jefferson, but that it's not about the degree name. It's about the degree requirements. So doing your research. 'cause obviously among like the app CS schools for example, you've got, you've got MPA ID, MP's and MPP's everything's out there. There's still a number of M as in I are different things so it's not so much the name that's all sort of nomenclature. Drill down to the requirements for each of the programs that you're applying for to see what you want.

But you're absolutely right, Omar. There are signals that these that degree name may change, so hopefully that helps answer your question. Nothing wrong with going onto a PhD. Most who do that, I think, are going into more like think tanks and whatnot and thinking about policy in that regard. But there are some people have done that. Feel free to utilize LinkedIn as well if you find anybody doing that and researching Jackson people that way and if they can respond, I'm sure they will all right.

Yeah, let's see. We have about 15 minutes. You're welcome, Paul, come there was a thank you. Doesn't seem to be any question good because I'm losing my voice.

I'm running, pardon me, gotta take a drink.

Does the committee consider applicants who have only national policy experience but want to start with an international career? Are we disadvantaged in the process somehow? Great question. Pivoting that that's the buzzword, right? I mean, we might be on that, but it does seem that pivot can be tricky, so for us it's really about.

Connecting the dots right does your past.

Connect your to your present. Like I said, the Y Jackson peace to your long term career goals. So for some people that is. I did this and I realized I don't want to do this for my career, so they might be pivoting for that. Or they've you know obviously national security, international issues, they're all. They're all global related domestic is global policy, but we are very very much IR International focus program.

Even within the student body, our international students make up usually between 40 to 50% of the student body. So those voices in that representation is very important to us in the classroom.

And so it, but it's we are also looking for a lot of different representation and actually national security is pretty huge at Jackson. Like if you do some of the searches, or even if you do just a regular search, not in the course database, but on the Jackson website. You know there's a number of people who are doing certain things and even within the courses.

And national security issues, you know? I mean, but my boss is doing the Russian disinformation thing, which is a national security issue so.

It's it's all sort of related, right? Or actually, I should say your career path. You need to sort of tell us how it's all related, so that's more of the issue. Like how are you seeing switching to international an international focus? If you haven't been doing that and how is that all tide together? So I hope that helps. I know I'm running out of time so I'm happy to go back to that and clarify anything if there is time to do so.

So I hope that helps, so I don't want to use the word disadvantaged right. It's not a disadvantage, but I said this little phrase already, but we see work experience is evidence of commitment in global affairs so.

We want you to sort of.

We want your application to make sense. You don't want us. The collective admissions Committee which is made up of staff and faculty and senior fellows. You might have former ambassadors. Reading your application, you don't want us asking.

Well, what is it they want to do? They've done this and now they're switching. This is that what they really want to do? They know they want to do this new path.

So if you can put that together in your application on having that all makes sense, then that's great. It doesn't necessarily make you at a disadvantage, so think about us. Asking questions like are they all over the place? Do they really know what they want to do again with us being such a flexible, very interdisciplinary program with 35 people doing potentially 35 different things coming from 35 different backgrounds.

It's important for us to know what you want to do, and I I keep saying that over and over again and I don't have to repeat it any other way so it doesn't mean we hold you to it. Make sign in blood like often people get here and their minds are blown. They they realize from even their classmates like Oh my gosh, I didn't realize I could do this. That the other thing with in this particular arena so.

You know we're not like I said we're not going to hold you to it and you end up here in this academic playground, but the more you know what you want to do helps you.

Hold that curriculum and usually those are the people putting together the stronger applications 'cause they're telling us you know what their path is. So if you know what that path is, that's almost more important than the idea of where you've come from. If that makes sense, hopefully that's making sense again, I've been talking all day and saying these things all day so so hopefully something good is coming out of this for you and Olivia. You're welcome for the detailed presentation regarding the letters of recommendation. Is it mandatory to conclude one recommendation?

From academic uhm, is it possible through professional that is a.

Loaded question and a tricky question.

In a perfect world, we would have at least one academic and one professional. The third is sort of your choice, and I know for such a professional program with three to five year average and this goes through them as well, of it having an academic reference could still be very important, because while we are very professionally focused.

We're still an academic institution. We're still Yale. You have access to the number one law school in the country and and you know, we want to make sure that you are well prepared so you have the analytical skill can do an academic program like this, and it's almost more important now for the mass that 'cause we're not requiring the jury for them that this could be more important to to see your academic preparation. So having a recommendation that corroborates your skill in those areas.

Is important.

You get into lots of questions I don't want to say. I really don't want to encourage more than three, but there have been people who do more than three. Something to be mindful of is an academic reference that is like, yeah, they they attended this class and got a good grade and showed up on time. Nice person. That's not a substantive letter, so that's what you need to be mindful of. If there's anybody on this call or web and are not call who is still an undergrad. I always tell I I tell people.

As early as possible to find those mentors, find those academic mentors. Again, not necessarily effectively mean with their Deans. Maybe there are people that you've done internships with that are academics who can speak to your analytical skill, your academics, and your passions for doing a particular ideally this global affairs.

So that's, you know, start thinking about who those people are who might be willing to follow you through your career because it's not just Jackson. Again, I've been around the block for many years. A lot of these programs like to have an academic letter, but again, you can be creative with that if you are not going to submit an academic letter.

It can't hurt to use the additional information and explain why, and you know just to answer that question so we know you're not just ignoring our requirement that you have been very thoughtful about putting together your application. And I will say one final thought on this issue is if there's any concerns in your academic record, maybe a weaker academic record maybe.

Poor you know no or poor grades in some of the quant areas which are part of our curriculum.

Having a recommendation that can attest to those things is super helpful, so think about the big picture of the portfolio if you will of your application and what you might need to balance out different strengths and weaknesses so, but there might be cases where we're willing to overlook a weaker academic record. If you have this rock star career and stellar recommendations, so we use the whole holistic admissions approach.

If somebody.

You know doesn't have and this might not be your particular issue, but having the.

Having a weak academic record, we can't have too many of those in the class because we want you to succeed, right? We want you to do well, will provide the resources to help you get there. If that means tutors or whatnot.

So we can't do that within an hour class, even if it is only 30 to 35 people, so we're very mindful of that. So when we're building, the class will be looking at like OK. How many people did really, really, really poorly in their cherries?

And not have too many of those, so hopefully kind of that makes sense. Think about it in the big portfolio picture if that helps. I hopefully that answered Olivia reading. Glad Gigi how many applications you read for the mass each year and how many applicants do you admit? Great question. So for them as it did double when we waved the Jerry. But we're still pretty small. We've been getting I think somewhere in the.

50S or so I think, and we admit about.

68 maybe to get a cohort of usually two to five, but I will say there's some additional programs, so if you look at our student BIOS and you see for them as a number of like international military, we have some fellowships like called DPRK. I'll butcher the name if I try to portray us renati something and potentially more of those types of things coming up so.

They so we do admit they're nominated, so there's more of those on top, so the mass might be growing a little bit and answer the question. Just to be fair, the MPP usually somewhere in the five hundreds. Again, no way of knowing if these numbers will change with us becoming a school if that will bump us with the degree name change.

Will level out or go down 'cause we're still requiring the Aryan a lot of our peers aren't so no way to know in these next couple years. Kind of what the it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. We usually do admit about 50 or so to get our our cohort of 30 to 35, so hopefully that helps answer that. I don't think I see anymore questions. We have like three more minutes so.

Any final questions before I I cut you all off?

And give my voice a rest.

I don't see any.

Last minute

I hope this was helpful. It sounds like it was, you know what I will do since there's not a ton of you I do have.

Uhm?

A calendar link set up.

Which sets up brief, I think, like 15 minute appointment zoom appointments. So if I have left out any questions, feel free to ping me there. Keep in mind, don't just do it for the sake of doing it, but we don't do interviews. They have no say in the in the application the admission process. Don't take notes or anything like that. It really is to answer your questions and it's we started it when we were all working.

Bowman didn't have access to the phone, and all of those kinds of things, and but it seems to be, I think again, it's here to stay right, so. And since you're not a giant.

Attendee list I don't mind giving that out. There might be a lot of holes I am going on a mini vacation next week so we have a lot of other recruiting events, so there's probably a lot of not. Might not find a lot of time, but you can hold on to that as well. It usually is a couple weeks out, so if you wait until a couple weeks more time slots might open up in early November, but we're doing another November webinar and I think the women are.

In November will be a little bit more practical for current applicants. At least that's how we'll frame it to answer any last minute. Really practical admissions, application questions before you have to submit, but so feel free to hop onto that if you're if you're applying.

Goodbye IG is asking another question. Great independent research yes, so again, that's the beauty of Jackson. So not only do you have access to this amazing course database, but there are courses we call them directed readings where if you find a hole, if you will in in this may not be answering your question, but the idea that if there's a topic that you feel like might be missing in the course database.

And there is a faculty member who was willing to come alongside you with that.

That you can actually create a course so that might not be answering your independent research, but we call them directed readings and that made me think of that, but there are there are students who do research with our faculty and senior fellows, so we have reached research assistance teaching fellows course assistance. We didn't even get into all of that kind of the funding. It is part of the funding piece, but a lot of people see those as networking opportunities.

To be able to to work alongside of senior Fellow who's writing a book or whatever the case may be. So there's a lot of options. If you think you can do it, chances are Jackson really help you do that, so maybe that's a good way to end that. Jackson can help you, you know?

Build your curriculum and design your path.

And yeah, so with that I think I will close us and again feel free to ping me or email or Jackson.

Email address, probably better than me because I'm in the hundreds right now and completely.

Lil bit buried and once we start reading applications that will get crazier so hopefully feel free to email us at Jackson debit missions or ping the calendar and hopefully whether it's this year or in future years hopefully will see your application and maybe we'll see you on campus someday. Stay safe out there.

No words yet. We're getting very very close and maybe you can join us for future events, virtual or otherwise. So thanks so much. Take care, bye.