Fall Admissions Joint Degree Webinar (November 2019)

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My name is Asha I am the director of admissions at Jack Septic Jackson Institute. I am also a member of the faculty. I'm a senior lecturer. Ann I teach on national security and related issues a little bit about my background.

I went to Princeton for undergrad and was actually in the Woodrow Wilson School of public international affairs are kind of our rival now an then I spent a year doing a Fulbright scholarship in Bogota, Colombia, and then I came to Yale Law School, where I graduated in 2000. I clerked for a year in San Juan PR. I've been joined the FBI. I was a special agent specializing in counterintelligence investigations.

And then I came back to Yale Law School to become an associate Dean and I was the Dean of admissions, there for 12 years before coming to the Jackson Institute, 2 years ago, so I've been very tidy you for most of my adult life and I love it. And it's been great coming to the Jackson Institute. Because you know, my background is the intersection of law and policy and having done the national security stuff through the FBI.

Able to really uhm you know teach and write on those issues, this fall and teaching a course called Russian intelligence information warfare and social media. You know, kind of irrelevant topic and then in the spring. I'll be teaching. National security law, so if you're interested in just national security generally or those classes. Feel free to ask me as well. But for right now, what I would like to do is give you an?

Overview of the Jackson Institute, about the application process and then also about joint degrees and how we manage those so the Jackson Institute is fairly knew it's about 7 or 8 years old. It used to be what was the International Relations Department of the Graduate School and then because of a generous donation it became the Jackson Institute. So it is still technically right now.

A Department of the Graduate School and I I mention this because sometimes there's some confusion when you apply 'cause you apply through the Graduate School portal, but that is why so were you know they then distributed the applications to us and we review them in-house. The good news is that last spring. The Yo Corporation voted for Jackson to become its own professional school, so right now, we are set to become an independent.

Professional school in the fall of 2022 and I'll I can tell you more about that doesn't really impact anything about the program or the size. It basically means that between now and then we're going to be beefing up our faculty because now we have the authority to hire our own. Jackson specific faculty, which is really exciting in that process is already underway. So from your perspective as perspective student and if you're admitted as a student here, even during that transition Phase I think what?

You would see is really just a growth in the courses that are available within the Jackson Institute. An kind of more of you know the kind of institutionalized structure that you see at schools, like the water wells in school or or any other professional school like a law School of Business School.

Having said that you know, yeah, Jackson Institute compared to our peers. A man you know in general. Most of the students who don't come to Jackson, whom we admit end up going to places like the Woodrow Wilson School, or Kennedy Tops Georgetown. We are quite small compared to most of those schools are incoming class is about 30 to 35 students this year is incoming cohort.

I believe is 33 and so that is something that we take pride in We want it to be small. We really want to foster an intimate you know sense of connection and collegiality among the students coming in also the incoming cohort being small is important because this cohort takes their core classes together and right now, we have 3 core classes that are required of Jackson students.

2 are taken in the fall semester and one is taken in the spring.

Um that is kind of what creates the cohesive bond among the cohort that comes in and the reason is because beyond those 3 required courses students in Jackson can actually take courses across the University across all the schools and Department. San again this is something that makes is very different from our other pure schools. Pier Polisy schools, which typically have fairly structured curriculum throughout their 2 years.

I'm giving you not as much flexibility to take elective courses and often it can be difficult to take courses at other professional schools, like a law school or Business School. That's at University at Jackson. We are designed precisely to do that and basically students come in with you know a focus area sense of what kind of skills and background. They want to have for the job that they want to pursue after.

They graduate and they're able to custom tailor an interdisciplinary program based on courses that are going to give them that specific basket of skills and knowledge so.

It's a very much kind of a choose your own adventure approach to you know apolosi education. And for this reason. Typically, the students that we take have been out of school for a few years. It is a program that requires students to be a little bit self directed in terms of knowing what they want to do where they are where they want to go and we find that students have actually been out working tend to have.

More focused idea of that. That's not to say that we don't take students coming directly out of undergrad, but usually those students are apart of some kind of fellowship like Sayer angle or Pickering Fellowship, which finances their graduate education and has already reserved for them a spot in say the foreign service and since that kind of mission aligns directly with what we're trying to do.

We will take them, but we recommend in general that applicants who really want to be competitive in our admissions process spend you know at least 1 or 2 years out and working.

In terms of what we look for we are looking for a demonstrated interest and experience in international affairs and global policy. So you know, we have everything from students who worked in private companies that deal with international matters to returning peace core volunteers. Uhm you know government. Former people who worked in either foreign governments or even the US government, but on.

You know foreign policy kinds of issues and again. We had I think one another. The third thing that makes us different than most of our peer schools with the exception of a few is that we are very globally focused. We don't focus on domestic policy.

You know or or public policy for the USI mean there are many of those issues that tend to straddle both the domestic and international spheres so you know immigration and refugees and things like that so we construe it very broadly but I just note that because sometimes students want to come in and you know maybe study some kind of our focus on some domestic policy issues like health care or something in the US and that's typically not what we.

Are looking to admit students to do?

Um that's kind of the overview of Jackson Um, I'll say a little bit about the joint degree programs an please. Feel free to queue up your questions. You can go ahead and type them in and I will start going through them. After I give you this overview. So the Jackson program is 2 years. It's four semesters, the way it joint degree program works is that if you are.

Admitted and you are admitted into another program.

Jackson will allow you to use one semester of that programs course work towards your Jackson degree and the idea is that that other program would allow you to use a semester of your Jackson course work towards that degree, which would reduce your total period of study by one year. We have an understanding with the professional schools at Yale to be able to do this so if you apply to the law school. If you applied to the School of Management, which is our Business School, the forestry.

Well, the school of public health there is no problem with doing a joint degree with any of those schools that reciprocal credit. You know is understood and you know as a part of Jackson being a part of the same University. I do want to emphasize, though that we do allow joint degrees with other programs outside of Yale. So you're not necessarily bound to it. We've had students do a joint degree between Jackson and NYU law school for example, or Harvard Law School.

And we will allow that the only caveat to that kind of arrangement is that you know, Jackson can give you credit for the other programs coursework because that's what we have control over we don't have control over the other program and whether it's going to be willing to give you credit for Jacksons course work towards that degree so to give you an example. I'm talking to a student right now perspective applicant who is currently at Harvard Business School, Harvard Business School won't.

Give credit for Jackson coursework, so if she were to apply and be admitted she would only be able to reduce her total period to study by one semester because we would give her credit for the Harvard Business School coursework, but she would have to do all 4 semesters at Harvard Business School. So I hope that makes sense. I know it's a little bit confusing. But it just kind of you know, we can only control we control. The other thing to note about 20 degrees is that if you are applying to 2 separate programs.

Uhm you know, and you're not you're not already in a program is my point we would expect you to take A to get a deferral for one year from the other program so that you can begin at Jackson as I mentioned our incoming cohort is very small so we really just can't afford to have you know a third of the class defer to start somewhere else. We just don't factor that into our admissions process and it would really disrupt things for us.

So we just have a blanket rule that if you do a joint degree and you apply to 2 programs simultaneously that you would ask for different from the other program begin at Jackson. Complete your first year. Then you would take a leave from Jackson and start at the other program an art director of student affairs. Lily Sutton would help you figure out what your sequence would be after that, depending on what joint program you're doing.

Let me see I have a few a questions already so I'm going to go ahead and start answering them and maybe I'll cover other things in the course of answering your questions.

OK so Kevin is asking to the Admissions Committee value relevant online courses. The applicant has completed post. Traditional Bachelors Degree. If So what value attached to them. I mean that's really a case by case basis. We do, often have students who after they have graduated will take on line courses say to get more quantitative knowledge and background an we do look at that we would ideally like students to come.

In with the intro, Micro Intro macro. It's not a requirement if you're admitted we would hope that you would take it via an on line course, perhaps before you enroll only because one of the required core courses is you know a quantitative course for public policy and student. We really want that foundational econ background so that everybody is kind of on the same page.

Other than that I you know, I think it really depends on what the course is what was the purpose of you taking the course. Where did you take the course so you know? I can't really answer that with any specificity without looking at the particulars of the application, Daniels asking what language proficiency is not required for admission is some proficiency in a second language. A benefit to an application so. Thank you for pointing that out, a language proficiency is not required for admission.

But that is the other requirement that we do have for graduation is that our graduates be profession. Informal language so if you don't come in with the language proficiency. You would be expected to take language courses and we have a very robust language Department at Yale is quite amazing for you to to you know take 4. Semesters have it before you graduate you know, I think I think proficiency in a second language is definitely benefit. I mean, as I mentioned we're looking for people with you know an interest.

And experiencing global affairs. I mean, ideally you would have utilized that in some context. It can definitely be helpful for you in terms of testing out of the language requirement, but once again. That's you know it's more context. Specific this is another question that is very hard to answer in the abstract, but you know a second language. Knowledge can enhance your application if you're able to articulate.

You know how or why it relates to your desire to come to Jackson Uhm.

So Flori is asking a medula joint agrees with other professional schools at Yale. Not including before you mentioned. Uh yes, so I don't know which one you're thinking about like a I guess if you wanted to do and M AMD at the medical school. You theoretically could do that again. You know, I think that the four that I mentioned or the ones that typically intersect with a public policy.

Program so you know, obviously long policy, you know, MBA, Forestry, which deals with environmental issues. Public health if you really wanted to do a joint degree with something like the medical school I think you'd have to articulate exactly what the intersection is you know, we are looking for people who are pursuing careers in global affairs so if.

You know your goal is to be a doctor and work in a hospital in the United States that that really doesn't align with kind of what we're looking to do professionally with our students. So yes, the answer is you can do joint degrees. I think that if it's something that isn't an obvious intersection or connection to global affairs and public policy. You have to explain what what you're hoping to do with that joint degree.

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So you can is asking can you elaborate more on the expectation of students to be self directed is the program, mostly based on taking classes or research projects. It is taking classes so you take a full course load each semester. But the reason I say that you know, we like students to be self directed is that you know it can be overwhelming looking at the entire Yale Course catalog across all Department. San schools and deciding how you want to tailor your 4 semesters here.

A man have the right balance of course, is that's it. Your specific interest. Now we do have a director of graduate studies and the director of Student Affairs, who will help you and part of what makes a small size really great is that we can offer 1 on one counseling on that front. But if you you know, we do expect students to come in with a sense of you know, I'm really interested in women's rights and development in you know.

Africa.

So that kind of will help narrow down what courses you're taking you might take some you know development classes or you know, regional knowledge classes. Maybe some law classes or something like that. But they will all relate to that. You know, Jackson is probably not a good fit for someone who's just like I'm just you know trying to figure out what I want to do it's going to be overwhelming and you're not going to really have any kind of Guidepost to you know figure out.

How to structure your course load so you know uh it is not the kind of program that's going to give you a very easy checklist at this things that you have to do. We do want students to have that kind of inner drive and focus of some passion if you will of what they wanted to.

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OK Julia is asking what percent of the cohort or doing joint degrees is there a thesis option and how does that work um? I would say probably 20 to 25% of our incoming cohort? Does joint degrees uhm? I know we have several at the School of Management. The Business School. We have at least one student at the law school and we have a handful at the Forestry school I I'll be honest. I don't know the exact breakdown between both.

The first year in the second year class between those 2. We do have a fair number that are crossing over um. Jackson does not have a thesis requirement or I mean?

I don't think you know you can do independent research uhm, but I think that would be something that you would arrange with a specific professor an it's not something that Jackson would you know require or structure so it might be in conjunction with a specific class that you're taking if you wanted to write like a longer paper or something um. Let's see I think I answered this Jacob you asked is it possible have a joint program that is.

Not already offered by you, yes, uh and so, yeah, so if you get into another program. You could combine that again. You know if you're interested in is so you're interested in Education Policy International Development. I think it would be great for you to lay that out in your personal statement and the only other thing that I would suggest is.

An answer in Cecile doesn't have an educational schools to be somewhere else is to make sure that they would allow you to defer for one year and to find out if they would give you credit for Jackson course work towards that degree. I should note that you know you can also apply to join you can apply to Jackson and you can apply to another program during your first year at Jackson so you know if another school won't is.

Has some policy where they don't give you deferrals or something like that. Um you can start at you know you can apply only to Jackson and you can then apply to the other program during your first year, which would then allow you the following fall to begin at that program.

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OK up lumis asking I was wondering about the GRE exam for Nanuet students. I was hoping to apply for December, but I wouldn't have the results yet.

Great question so we only like as long as you submit your application again. That application through the Graduate School portal. If you submit your application by December 1st. We do offer a few Weber. You do not have to pay to apply after December 1st. The fee will apply and the Graduate School will not you have to ask them if you need a fee waiver and they typically.

Do not grant them after that date up your recommendations and your test scores can come in. After that are vinyl application deadline is January, 2nd so even if you apply by January 2nd. You don't necessarily need your test scores or recommendations in by then we do start reviewing files fairly soon after January 2nd like within a week. So you know the December test is the last one you can take. But as long as the result is going to come.

In in the 1st or 2nd week of January, you should be fine. Same with your recommenders. I write recommendations so don't you know stay on your recommenders to get them in because it can be easy for them to procrastinate. But even if those come in after you submit your application. That's OK and again, you can as long as you submit your application. By December, 1st you will qualify for the fee waiver sorry guys.

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Robert the personal statement that we have to submit for the Jackson School looks very research. Heavy um specific do. We have to get so again this is kind of one of those consequences of us still being part of the Graduate School. Most of the other programs in the Graduate School or academic an you know, MA PhD programs. And so the prompt that you see will say you know give us your research agenda or something like that. You should have if you started an application received uh.

Uh email from Jackson, giving you some tips about the personal statement. We do not expect a research based personal statement. We're much more interested in you know what you're interested in you know what this kind of focus or area that you're interested in global affairs. Where did it come from any experience that you had in that area basically connecting the dots in your academic and professional and personal life an which gives us an idea of why Jackson.

Is the right program for you, um so I hope that that is helpful also on our website. We should have? We have some information about you know the personal statement. But I you do not have to. We're not looking for academics. In fact, if any of you are thinking about doing a pH D Jackson is not the school for you. We don't have a PhD an we really are looking to launch people into professional careers, not into academia so.

That is not our focus and Robert thanks for flagging that because that can be confusing to people uhm OK. Catherine is asking a lot of.

Graduate Global International Affairs program trade on their location and proximity uhm.

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Let me OK uhm so this is Catherine's uh? How does heel support students to get those networking career opportunities while basing you heatbed Anne? How does Jackson's shoes? I'd never opportune is to study or work internationally over the summer or in term time during their degree great question actually again. This is where are small size is really beneficial so our first year cohort actually makes a trip in the fall to DC?

In New York for a networking fair basically with other Jackson Alumni and with employers. In fact when they go to DC. They meet with think tanks with you know government agencies and private firms that all are interested in hiring. Jackson students and they do this again together as a cohort it's kind of also a class bonding experience.

We have a fairly tight alumni network. Uhm you know it. It may not be as large as some other schools. But in fact, the fact you know, people because it's small it's more intimate and personal in a lot of ways, so that is a resources available, but most importantly are we have a director of career services. Elizabeth Gill and she actually is available to do individual 1 on one career counseling.

Multiple times to get you the job that you're looking for over the summer and ultimately the job that you want to pursue after graduation. An you know? Our students are generally incredibly successful on both of those friends I should add that we provide.

Stipends for students to work over the summer, so even if you were to get say an unpaid internship somewhere and it's your dream internship. Jackson will give you up to $5000 to be able to do that job so those are some of the career resources that are available. You can also go to our website and there is a careers tab animal super interesting they'll go through each class and there's actually a global map that that tells you where people are and the positions.

And companies that they are working for an that can give you kind of an idea of the range of jobs and geographic locations that our students go to after they graduate so let's see.

Um Daniels asking is the MAJD 4 years, um must application to the second will be submitted before or during the first year of that a program the MA. JD is 4 years again. The JD is typically 3 years and since you shave off 1 year of the total time is 4. Instead of 5. If you do a joint degree weather, the application. The second school should be submitted before or during the first of them a program again. That's really up to you and it depends on whether the other school is willing to grant you a deferral.

I just need to keep emphasizing that is that if you apply to both schools. You get into both schools. You have to start in Jackson. We do not grant deferrals. So I would make sure that you do some homework ahead of time and before you apply to another program that let's you in and then doesn't let you defer that would become a big problem, but you know, having a date of admissions at Yale Law School for 12 years and in my experience for law schools deferrals are quite common.

I would be very surprised if there was a law school that had some some very strict policy about Deferrals. We were very generous with them. It is not uncommon. Other kinds of programs for anyone else, considering other kinds of degrees. I can't speak too. and I don't know how common it is so again please. Do your homework to make sure that the deferrals are available to you and Oregon in through not again, you can apply to Jackson, an apply to the other program during your first year or even apply to the other program if you get in there, you can apply in Jackson.

So you know just plan it out a little bit based on what the policies of that program are.

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Daniels asking her undergraduate courses made available to Jackson students I believe so uhm you know to be honest it's a graduate program and so most of our students are taking graduate level courses but if there is absolutely something and sometimes it will happen in say eakan because you know in quantitative or like hard Sciences you know getting that basic knowledge might be essential and so you know those undergraduate courses would be available.

I said, This is a good opportunity for me to talk a little bit about how course selection works at Jackson. So if you go to the course catalog and you go to global affairs. You will see all the courses that Jackson offers is GLBL is the designation again, you can look at the entire course. Catalog that is basically your playground to take courses So what does it mean to for Jackson to offer courses?

The courses I teach for example, a Jack support is they've got Jackson graduate level courses. I give Jackson students priority for my classes, the classes. I both teacher. Seminars usually 15 students are less and in the last few semesters that I've taught them have been oversubscribed and so any Jackson MA student who wants to take my glasses automatically in they don't have to submit any kind of application or anything like that everyone else. I do you know like create a wait list or I?

You know have them submit some kind of steam then and that's kind of the presumption for the Jackson classes is the Jackson students get priority because the because yell University understands that Jackson students come here wanting to take courses across University. They typically don't have any problem getting into courses in the Business School or courses in the law school or other Department an and so in many ways, Jackson students get the best of all worlds in that.

They get preference for the Jackson classes and you know they in many ways get preference for these other classes, too, and because they're so small there's never.

Any one class outside of Jackson that all the students are flocking to so you know it's never a big deal for professor at SOM to have a Jackson student in their class. It's like one student out of however. Many I will say Conversely. It's not true for other students. I mean as I said, You know if there are a lot of students who want to get into my classes. They have to wait or you know to see if it fills up with Jackson students first so they don't get the same kind of preference that Jack students do.

And I will say that many of the courses that Jackson offers precisely because they are often taught by practitioners. Former ambassadors uhm. You know generals people have a lot of on the ground expertise are very appealing to people assigned Jackson and Jackson really just students really are able to get the benefit of them and I'll just take a moment to know here? How you know, right now? How Jackson, the faculty are structured.

As I mentioned before we are hiring our own faculty, which is great who will be cross appointed between Jackson and another school or Department an and we do have people who are appointed another Department teaching courses for Jackson as well. That's kind of our academic faculty, but we also have something called Senior Fellows. An Senior Fellows are practitioners, who come for 3 year appointment at Jackson and they teach courses so for example, general standard crystal is teaching.

And he's been in Jackson, now for several years. Uhm you know, Emma Sky as I mentioned several passengers wreckage. Mojan, who was at the World Bank so these are people who are coming with lots of practical experience and.

There are often UM you know schools that will have some you know, Fellows of some kind that are really fellows in name. It's just a research affiliation are fellows are active members of the community. They teach classes. They grade things they write recommendations an because our school is so small they're having a lot of one on one interaction. Howard Dean is one of our senior Fellows. Right now and he just kind of Wanders. The halls of Jackson. I'm talking to students which is kind of.

But it's like there's Howard so it's a very dynamic environment that really. I think brings together theory and practice in one place, making it an exciting place to study policy.

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OK, years, asking can I do JSD from Law School, an EPO same time during the Jackson Institute. Uh you cannot so our program is intended for full time it's you have to be a full time enrolled student so you cannot be. I mean, it wouldn't even work. We don't have night classes or anything like that, so you would be in residence, taking a full course load.

Uh in New Haven, so you wouldn't be able to do something simultaneously.

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OK, Robert is it possible to curate my injection it. Maybe it might interesting global education policy.

Yes, um again, I encourage you to take a look at the course offerings. Uhm you would basically have you know three semesters, plus worth of courses to choose from? To design around your specific interest. This is true for anybody. Whatever your area is you know if you don't have language proficiency. You need to take that into account. But I mean? What you're asking is literally exactly what Jackson does is that you're able to curate your own.

You know curriculum in a way that suits your particular interest.

OK um be polite you same answer? What is the scope for exploring sustainable development goals implementation and climate related policy at a global level. You know the scope is really whatever you know is available at University. I would suggest that you focus, especially on on the school of Forestry, which will have many you know, environmental related courses. We also have right now senior fellow named Susan Behnisch.

Who is teaching a course on climate change so you know the scope is really whatever possibilities the course curriculum offers so it's quite a lot of flexibility there, um.

OK let's see.

All right, Daniel is asking can you briefly discuss the degree plan approval process or students match with an academic advisor. I'm not sure if you're asking about a joint degree plan a more just generally you know the MA program. You not really matched with an academic advisor. We have a director of graduate studies. He's one of our faculty members right now is Professor Marnix Armond.

Um and as I mentioned before the director of Student Affairs Halili Sutton and they both provide individual guidance on you know suggestions on what courses you should take that would best set you up for you know what you're doing. Um Elizabeth, who is our director of career services would be able to also give you input on that. An obviously one of the best resources that Jackson are the other students.

You know typically you don't find 2 students who are doing the exact same thing, but because it's so small and they talk to each other. Students who have overlapping interests are able to get a lot of feedback on you know great courses to take that might intersect with their particular interest from other students so they are a great resource as well.

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Let's see a blue me? What are you asking what the professional outcomes are for students on graduating again I would ask that you look at the website an look at it says either beyond Jackson or careers. After Jackson that would literally give you I mean, it has like little pointers on different countries, an what organizations they're working at and what positions are holding their and.

Yes, we do connect with international organizations like the UN we've had students go go there and you know for Nanuet students have to leave. I don't know really how it works with the visa process, but many of our international students. Go back to their home countries to work in government or other organizations there. Often, that's what they're interested in when they apply to dox him in going back.

Uh let me quickly talk about funding before before I forget.

Jackson offers merit based funding uhm so.

We don't ask you know about your need but we do offer up to full tuition and a stipend to attend. Jackson there is a question on the Yale on the Jackson application. This is would you like to be considered for funding if you would like to be considered for funding you should mark? Yes, my King as does not in any way disadvantage your application. But what it allows us to do is to make sure that you are a part of the pie that we divide up in the event that you are admitted.

All the students we have made it our goal to make sure that 100% of students who request funding get some kind of funding an that typically is at the minimum half tuition grant.

Up to an includes full tuition grants an as I mentioned up to full tuition plus E stipend and you know, sometimes students are applying with a Fulbright, which will cover you know their books or you know cost of living in that an and we can supplement that so we can, we can create packages if we know you know if you're coming in with an outside scholarship. Let us know that an if you just want to be considered for.

Funding just from the general pool, please. Mark Yes, it's very difficult for us when students. Mark no for reasons that I don't really understand and then after admission and we've already allocated all the money they come back and say, I'd love to be considered for funding is at that point we've already accounted for you know the the funding that we've.

We have to work with for the year.

You know, ideally we'd love to get to a place where we are fully funding, everybody because you know public policy, and public service specifically doesn't pay very much and we don't want students who have to go into debt. If you don't get a full package. There are many other ways to also make money. While at Yale. Many of our students become teaching fellows or professors, which can be lucrative positions in terms of you help with grading or?

Or course design or teaching a section and you can make money. That way you can also become a research assistant and of course, there are other campus jobs in other things as well so and again. We do that. All of that funding that I just described in terms of our merit aid is on Top of the $5000 stipend, which we will give to you know any student if they are working in an unpaid position.

Over the summer so you know that's on Top of so that $5000 is not come out of any kind of a package that you have already gotten I'm OK 1 question here from Ali is if you're not I don't. I don't really understand the question. But answer the best I can if you're not academia? How would you evaluate? How would you be evaluated by other universities?

So I don't know if you're asking like if you're coming from an International University how we evaluate you but we see many international students. I would say roughly uh you know a little less than half of our incoming class are international students from a number of different countries in the number of institutions I will say.

Just in terms of applying we are way more interested in your you know experience and background than just numbers and I'd like to emphasize that because you know numbers are important in the sense that it answers. One of the questions that we have in the admissions process, which is can you do the work I mean, it is yell University the classes are going to be rigorous. It's you're going to be taking mostly graduate courses, you're going to be expected to write a lot.

So you know your GRE scores in your undergraduate record or helpful in assessing are you going to be able to be a Top student. You know, and you are going to be in many different classes across you might be in law classes or Business School classes. So it's a very academically rigorous environment. We want you to be able to be successful. But you know that's not all, we're looking for. We really are looking for the next movers and shakers and people who are really passionate. I have a true interest that they want to pursue.

And that that will make a difference also in your application one tip that I have is uh.

That if for whatever reason, your you know test scores or not what you wanted or if you have. Apache are academic transcript to use your your references to be able to speak to the questions that might be raised by the other parts of your application. So we require 3 letters of recommendation uhm you know, I I think you can have.

I would have at least 1 academic reference and you can have you know 2 professional but I think if you have any kind of weekness say in your test scores or your transcript. I would really recommend that you submit 2 academic references and then you know a professional recommendation just to kind of balance, it out. 'cause we that's the question that we want to know is can you do the work here and then we want to know what you're passionate about an?

Daniel is asking one more question, which is uh what let's see.

Actually, it disappeared, but he said how much flexibility is there for the summer internship and whether you can do language immersion. You know, we really are looking for students to use this summer to get experience on their resume. That's going to help really get them into you know the highest level job after graduation, so the summer is really not the time for.

Language immersion uhm you know, I think if that is something you're really interested in you know, I would suggest doing that before coming to Jackson as I mentioned we have a fantastic language Department at Yale and you're encouraged to take language classes, while you're in school, but the summer and the summer stipend is really intended for a professional based experience.

Um let's see a Samuel is asking uh whether there are prerequisites to classes at Jackson. I'm specifically thinking about graduate level. Economics classes that is really at the discretion of the person teaching the course. So I would look on line at the specific. I imagine that for something like graduate level. Econ you would need prerequisites. The syllabus for that chorus or the course description for that course would let you know.

What those have to be so uhm? I don't think that there is a blanket answer to that question?

Uhm I think if there's any other aspects of Jackson, which I have not yet covered up.

I think I said, We I'll wait a couple more minutes to see if anybody has any other questions.

I should have asked some great questions and I think I've I've covered most of it. Um just trying to think if there's any other application tips that I have for you.

A Luke is asking what will change if anything is Jackson becomes a per separate school as I mentioned earlier well changes. We will have a more robust faculty that is appointed directly to the Jackson Institute, so that only benefit students. The other thing that would change from your perspective is help. Ideally, we will raise a lot of money, which will increase our ability to our aid for students as I mentioned we really want.

To make Jackson our aspiration is to make it fully accessible for all students so right now, there's no plan for the size of Jackson to increase significantly so I think all of the benefits that we currently have in terms of our small size, an intimacy in our senior Fellows. The practitioners that are here will all stay there and then we will just be able to kind of create the institutional infrastructure around it, including.

You know the development side and the academic faculty for it.

Um.

OK look is asking who just like to the web and R can you an ad hoc dual degree with another institution? Yes, this, I think I've answered that like twice now but you can and one of the things that you should know is that once we get off. This web and R this will the recording of this will be posted on our website, so if there was something that you missed or you have to dash off to answer a Phone call or something like that. You can watch this over and over again, many, many times.

But at Luke we did I did answer that early on. It is possible. There are a few caveats in terms of what you would need to make sure from the other institution before you pursue that in terms of researching what they allow you to do.

Are you guys my throat is about to give out so I am going to sign of- on? On this web and R as I mentioned this will be posted on our website. So you can go back and and catch anything that you missed please. You know try to apply by December, 1st again. You don't need to get your recommendations and by then or your test scores. But if you submit your application. By December 1st. Then you will benefit from that fee waiver. But if for whatever reason you're unable to do that.

Uh. Please do get it in by January, 2nd which is sort of the drop dead deadline again. Your recommendations and test scores could come in a you know a week or so after that, if you absolutely need to.

Um thank you so much for joining I apologize again for you know being a little sick of doing this webinar, but uh my. I really look forward to reading. All of your applications and I wish you a great Thanksgiving and winter holiday coming up take care.